The Duck Dynasty Gospel

The Duck Dynasty Gospel

My grandmother (aka – Gammy) and stepmom (aka – Mystie) run a talent agency in Atlanta (Houghton Talent), and I remember discussing the reality show explosion with them a few years ago over a meal.  They pulled back the curtain for me and explained that even though the show is a “reality” show, it will have a heavily scripted side to it that you never see.  In other words, what they were telling me was that in reality, it wasn’t reality at all.  So, as I watch several different reality shows, I do pick up on the scripted parts of the show from time to time.

Last year my wife and I were introduced to a show by the name Duck Dynasty.  We both had been hearing a buzz about the show (complete with quotes from a bearded guy named Si), but in my non-conformist ways, I refused to watch it or pay much attention to it.  So, one day my wife and I actually decided to give it a shot.  We were immediately hooked.  Since I love the outdoors (hunting and fishing) – the show was right up our alley.  Furthermore, we appreciated the way each show ended with a prayer.  From the very beginning, the show was a hit in our home.  My wife and I get a bowl of ice cream on Wednesday nights after we put the kids to bed and watch the latest Duck Dynasty episode.

For those who don’t know about this show, it’s a reality show based on the family and business of the Robertson family.  Phil Robertson invented a successful duck call years ago, and now his sons run the company.  They work together, hunt together, and the show is a combination of business, recreation, and family.  This season has been a bit of a disappointment to us.  We both feel that the show has way too much scripted parts in it when compared to last season.  But, that has not prevented us from watching – and laughing!  From Si’s crazy vocabulary to Mountain Man’s slow speech – we find ourselves laughing at the simple and clean humor produced in the show.

A few weeks ago, I was sent a link to one of Phil Robertson’s sermons on Youtube.  The link was a short clip of him preaching.  I was excited at first and watched it a few different times.  After a few days, I was sent another clip to Willie (the son of Phil and CEO of the company) speaking about the gospel.  I paid more attention to this clip and watched it several more times.  As I listened to the words more intently, I could hear a doctrine being taught that violates the gospel of Jesus Christ.

First Things First:

I appreciate Duck Dynasty for obvious reasons stated above, especially their commitment to clean humor in a day where that is about as rare as spotting a white deer in the woods (aka – Piebald Deer).  The show emphasizes a close family which is another rare thing in our disconnected family units today.  I also appreciate the fact that they demonstrate the spirit of America – a hard working (well – when you overlook Si and a few others in the mix), inventive, motivated, driven, business minded group of men who have found a way to be successful through something they enjoy in life.  Furthermore, my wife and I will continue to watch (and laugh frequently) Duck Dynasty.

Down to Business:

These two clips show Phil and Willie describing salvation and how a person is saved.  While I would like to discuss in more detail the way the church is to baptize new believers and the fact that baptism, like the Lord’s Supper, is an ordinance of the church rather than a private matter, I will save that for another day.  The point I want to emphasize is much more important.  It deals with how a person is saved by Jesus Christ.

The danger of the Duck Dynasty gospel is that it comes from their background and influence of the Church of Christ movement.  The Church of Christ doctrine is centered heavily upon “baptismal regeneration” – the teaching that baptism is necessary for salvation.  For instance, the following statement on “How to Receive Salvation” is taken from a local Church of Christ website:

The Bible teaches that a person receives God’s grace by putting faith in Christ, repenting of sin, publically confessing Christ, and being immersed or baptized into Christ (Luke 24:45-47; Acts 2:36-41; Romans 1:16-17; Romans 6:1-7; Romans 10:9-10; Galatians 3:26-27).

If you examine the paragraph closely, you see that they have linked baptism with salvation.  This is the foundational belief system of the Church of Christ.  I examined the White’s Ferry Road Church of Christ (where the Robertson family attends church) to see a statement of their doctrinal beliefs, but they didn’t have one posted.  However, both Phil and Willie use the language of “baptizing someone into Christ” in their videos.  In fact, some Church of Christ congregations insist that a person’s baptism is not valid unless it’s performed through a Church of Christ assembly.

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Baptismal regeneration is the belief that a person does not receive the Holy Spirit and the transaction of justification is not fully made until the act of baptism is completed.  This is why the people who believe this doctrine baptize a person immediately after they repent, because faith alone in Jesus Christ is not enough for their salvation.  According to The Christian Chronicle, Phil has been known to baptize people in the middle of the night after leading them to Christ.  A close examination of the words of Phil and Willie seem to indicate that they embrace the doctrine of baptismal regeneration – a doctrine that clearly violates the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Salvation is not based on any work that we do, and the Scriptures are clear on that fact.  Ephesians 2:8-9 reveal that we are saved by God’s grace through faith, not baptism.  In fact, Ephesians 2:8-9 describes the reality that if our salvation was based on works that we performed, we would likely boast about it.  Therefore, in genuine salvation, we are unable to boast about anything because Jesus paid it all, God did the drawing work of conviction, and we were led to a state of humble repentance and faith in Jesus Christ.

The misinterpretation of verses that have baptism included in the scene of repentance and faith in Jesus Christ have led to the building of a false gospel.  The great transaction and exchange does not include us offering our baptism to God for mercy.  It involves God saving us through Jesus’ blood alone.  The exchange is whereby God placed on Jesus our sins on the cross and He provides us with the righteousness of His Son by faith alone.

Why did the early disciples baptize almost immediately?  In the book of Acts, we see people being baptized where no church existed.  This was the case with the Ethiopian Eunuch (Acts 8).  In other places in Acts, you see a very small number of believers in each city who are likely present when the new believer is baptized.  Much of what we see in the book of Acts is the building and organizing of the church rather than a set structure of how things operate.  By the time you get to the Epistles, things have started to become settled, in place, and organized by the Holy Spirit.  However, it is clear, baptism is commanded as an ordinance of the church rather than a means of redemption.  Baptism and the Lord’s Supper are both commanded, but neither of them are able to save a person.  Jesus’ blood is sufficient.

What’s the difference?  The two ordinances are commanded in the Scriptures, but they are not linked to a person’s salvation.  They are evidences of a person’s salvation and they are means of communion with God and fellow believers, but they are not in any way part of the salvation equation.  If salvation included baptism, Jesus would have rejected the thief on the cross who hung next to Him due to the inability to be baptized.  If one believes in baptismal regeneration and insists that a special case was given to the thief, we have an inconsistent God.  The fact is – sinners are not saved in multiple different ways.  There is one way (John 14:6; Acts 4:12) – and our God is immutable.

In conclusion, I want to say that I like the Robertson family and their show Duck Dynasty. I appreciate their commitment and desire to produce a clean and humorous show for the family.  I do, however, disagree with their gospel.  I don’t enjoy calling out guys that I like, but I must speak up when someone alters the gospel that I preach.  The apostle Paul said, “I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them” (Rom. 16:17).  When I see professing Christians posting videos of Phil and Willie preaching on Facebook and linking to them on Twitter and approving their gospel, it becomes necessary to distinguish between the gospel of Jesus Christ and the gospel of Duck Dynasty.

A man who knows that he is saved by believing in Christ does not, when he is baptized, lift his baptism into a saving ordinance. In fact, he is the very best protester against that mistake, because he holds that he has no right to be baptized until he is saved. — C.H. Spurgeon (Baptismal Regeneration, sermon 10.326)

Sola Fide,

Pastor Josh Buice

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  1. Agreed Josh concerning the view of baptism and salvation. Good point on the fallacy of this doctrine, however, I wish I could grow a beard like they have.

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    • I disagree with you assessment as there is no place in his preaching that Phil says that baptism saved the guy on the phone.

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  2. I did not hear anything that I strongly disagreed with in either of these videos. I don’t think you have a problem with these two men but the doctorine of church of Christ. I see you are a pastor of some kind and I would bet that I don’t agree with a lot of your doctorine or beliefs so will I ignore your entire work for the building of the kingdom? I believe I wouldn’t. So remember that these men are taking the gospel and baptizing people in the name of the father the son and the Holy Spirit. So I do not see division made by these men but by your article. We must remember there is not doctorine or theology that is completly correct in any church let alone in any man. If I listened to one of your sermons I could pick out things I do not agree with. So I praise God they are willing to share the gospel, I praise God they are willing to baptize someone at 2 in the morning I praise God they get to preach to the empty and famous. So be thankful and grateful for them not critical and bringing division. I know your heart but there are bigger battles to be fought than these battles, especially publicly on an article.Let us mend churches together so we can be a more complete body instead of continuelly building more divisions. I hear your heart and I see a lot of things I do not believe especially in the American church today. But we must first look at ourselves and our ministries and see what we are practicing that are man made and not biblical. We are all imperfect people but together through the blood of Christ we are more perfect. We need to stand our ground on things like virgin birth, death and resurrection and Christ being the only way and I understand baptism is a big deal and we can not work our way to heaven but many times the bible talks about judging us for our deeds and works. So like most things in the bible there are more than one way to look at it. So I hear your concern but we must encourage our brothers that have these opportunity to share the gospel on tv don’t just nick pick at them and cause divisions. I thank God for Duck dynasty and your ministry both have flaws and neither one is 100% correct. Just like my ministry and walk. So be careful and be an encouragement to the body, discipline out of love but not out of pride or proving a point

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    • Amen Jonathan!

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      • Well said!

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    • But Jonathan, in order to assert that “neither one is 100% correct” you too are standing as judge, establishing as fact something that you have not objectively supported. How do you know? Remember the context is the content of this article. Doctrine and proper exposition of scripture is of paramount importance to the Body of Christ.

      What the pastor has written is well supported by numerous orthodox theologians. And sound Biblical doctrine was worked through by generations of committed men, many of whom gave their lives to establish knowledge of the truth of God’s Word.

      Baptism does not save, but we are instructed to baptize in obedience to God’s Word. When people make it salvific, then it is a serious matter and must be addressed.

      James 4:4

      New International Version (NIV)

      4 You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.

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  3. False teaching has infected the visible church in a large way. From a person telling children/people to just invite Jesus into their heart for their salvation. to people like this person from the church of christ proclaiming a salvation by works (baptism), the popular book Not a Fan proclaiming a works salvation to the episcopal and catholic churches also teaching a salvation by baptism along with other works by the catholic church. to people saying repentance/turning from sin is required also for a persons salvation also there is the a public confession of Christ for salvation teaching. And the just say this prayer and you will be saved teaching. Salvation is by belief only that Christ died for our sins 1 Corinthians 15:3,4 Over 100 times when a condition for a persons salvation is give in the Bible the one condition is belief.

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    • Davit, thanks for your clear understanding and statement concerning the gospel. You are right about the sole requirement for salvation…”belief”. The Philippian jailer was told to “believe on the Lord Jesus Christ”. Baptism, turning from sins, commitment and other commands in Scripture are linked to the walk of the Christian but are not required for justification. Faith alone!

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    • I know it has been awhile after my first comment. Just wanted to add after further study of the topic salvation in the Bible. I would like to post this clarification to my original post about salvation (Salvation is by belief only that Christ died for our sins 1 Corinthians 15:3,4 Over 100 times when a condition for a persons salvation is give in the Bible the one condition is belief.)
      and that is after study i have a better understanding of what the Bible is saying about The Gospel and salvation.
      Salvation is used many times in the Bible and not all those time when salvation is used salvation means salvation from hell. Many times salvation is used as referring to a physical salvation of the believer from physical harm. My point is that The Gospel of John is the only book stated as it’s purpose for being written, is to tell people how to have life(eternal life)
      John 20:31 But these are recorded so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.
      And that this term eternal life better states a person receiving salvation from hell that the actual word salvation.
      With that said you will find in The Gospel of John the only condition given for a person to receive eternal life is trusting, believing that Jesus in the New Testament is the promised Messiah of the Old Testament and gives eternal life to all who will believe this and trust in Him for the gift of eternal life.
      Verses from The Gospel of JOhn
      3;16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
      3:17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
      3:18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned
      3:36 The one who believes in the Son has eternal life. The one who rejects the Son will not see life, but God’s wrath remains on him. already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
      5:24 “I tell you the solemn truth, the one who hears my message and believes the one who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned, but has crossed over from death to life.
      5:38 nor do you have his word residing in you, because you do not believe the one whom he sent.
      5:39 You study the scriptures thoroughly because you think in them you possess eternal life, and it is these same scriptures that testify about me,
      5:40 but you are not willing to come to me so that you may have life.
      6:27 Do not work for the food that disappears, but for the food that remains to eternal life – the food which the Son of Man will give to you. For God the Father has put his seal of approval on him.”
      6:28 So then they said to him, “What must we do to accomplish the deeds God requires?”
      6:29 Jesus replied, “This is the deed God requires – to believe in the one whom he sent.”
      6:40 For this is the will of my Father – for everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him to have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.”
      6:47 I tell you the solemn truth, the one who believes in me has eternal life.
      6:50 This is the bread that has come down from heaven, so that a person may eat from it and not die.
      6:51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats from this bread he will live forever. The bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.”
      7:38 let the one who believes in me drink. Just as the scripture says, ‘From within him will flow rivers of living water.’”
      11:25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live even if he dies,
      11:26 and the one who lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?”
      11:27 She replied, “Yes, Lord, I believe that you are the Christ, the Son of God who comes into the world.”
      20:30 Now Jesus performed many other miraculous signs in the presence of the disciples, which are not recorded in this book.
      20:31 But these are recorded so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

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  4. I do not see anything the Robertson have said controversial, you even gave the biblical references to their teaching. I do agree that man can’t be saved by his own works. Baptism is not mans work. It is simply being obedient to the Lords command. Some examples to look at: Would Naaman have been cleansed if he would have not dipped in the Jordan? Would he have been cleansed if he dipped 6 times? Was it anything he did that cleansed him? Would the walls of Jericho have fallen if Joshua did not march 7 times around? These events took obedience to the commands given. The only thing I see that may not be Biblical doctrine is you referring to the gospel that “I” preach. I would be interested in hear where your gospel says that baptism is not where you come in contact with the blood of Christ, is for remission of sins, is where you are added to His Church which is His body. What is not understandable about “Repent and be baptized for the remission of sins. I wonder how many people would misunderstand meet me at second base on the ball field and I will take care of you for life. Would you be outside the fence or on second base?

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    • Amen!

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    • Amen Ken!!!

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  5. Please explain Mark 16:6, then.

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  6. Please excuse me, Mark 16:15-16

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    • Amen Clinton. the key word in that scripture is AND believes AND is baptized. But yet it tells you in the next breath that baptism without belief is null.

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    • Hi Clinton… too much to reiterate here (web search on refuting of “Baptismal Regeneration” will give you all you need), but Theologians following the Reformation did a fantastic job of biblical exegesis clarifying Baptism as not required “to be saved”. Grace alone. No works of man.

      The Thief on the Cross, a host of Old Testament prophets/”saints”, and numerous other biblical examples refute the role of Baptism in salvation.

      Much more important is God’s own regenerating of the sinful heart of man, drawing him to the Cross. It is Jesus work alone, totally sufficient and effective, which saves us. We brought nothing but the sin!

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      • Baptism is not a work. It is a COMMAND of God. Saul’s conversion Acts 9, and Acts 22. Saul IMMEDIATELY went and was baptized.

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      • What scripture are you referring to that says the thief on the cross wasn’t baptized? Jesus had the power while he was on earth to forgive sins, I don’t think you would disagree. We are not saved by anything “only”, but a combination of the whole. Leave one out and you missed it. Please don’t base your salvation on a law that we are living under. I am assuming that you are not using the blood of bulls and goats as sacrifices. We can’t pick and choose what we want to believe, some from the old some from the new.

        What Saves Us?
        Introduction:  

              One of the biggest Biblical debates today is regarding the issue of what saves us. The debate typically centers around whether or not a person has to be baptized. Regrettably, what often happens is the two debaters find passages which mention their favorite requirements and they argue them back and forth. In this lesson, we will get away from “their verses” and “our verses”. We want to see what “Jesus’ verses” say. In this lesson we will simply search through the scripture to see what is necessary for salvation.

        Discussion:

        I.         You may be surprised to hear it, the Bible actually reveals sixteen essentials to salvation.

        A.      Acts 28:28; Philippians 1:28 – God the Father.

        B.     II Thessalonians 2:13 – The Holy Spirit.

        C.     Matthew 1:21; 18:11; Acts 4:12 – Jesus the Christ.

        D.     Acts 15:11; Ephesians 2:5, 8  – The grace (unmerited favor) of Jesus.

        E.     Matthew 26:28; Romans 5:9 – The blood of Jesus.

        F.      Acts 11:14; Romans 1:16; I Corinthians 1:21; 15:1 – The gospel.

        G.     Romans 10:17; James 1:21 – The word of God.

        H.     I Timothy 2:4 – Knowledge of the truth.

        I.         II Thessalonians 2:10 – Love of the truth.

        J.       Romans 8:24 – Hope.

        K.     Mark 16:16; Acts 16:30-31; Romans 10:9 – Faith. (James 2:21-26).

        L.      Romans 10:9-10 – Confession of faith.

        M.     II Corinthians 7:10 – Repentance.

        N.     Romans 10:13 – Calling on the name of the Lord. But how do we do that?

        O.    Acts 22:16; Mark 16:16; I Peter 3:21 – Baptism for the remission of sins.

        P.     Matthew 10:22 – Endurance to the end.

        II.       We must take it all.
        A.      I recognize, of course, that several of the above requirements for ultimate salvation overlap each other. For instance, hearing the gospel and having the knowledge of the truth are quite similar. However, we must make sure that when it comes to being saved, we recognize every single one of these things as required. Regrettably, we often hone in on the controversial requirements like baptism and forget that there is more to salvation than that. We must make sure that we are not converted to baptism, but rather that we are converted to Christ and to the entirety of His teaching.

        B.     According to Psalm 119:160, the sum of God’s word is truth. That is, we cannot take one statement from the Bible and claim to have all truth. Rather, we must look at all the Bible says on a topic. Thus, in our discussions regarding salvation. It does us no good to try to divide Bible verses between “us” and “them” and then lob them at one another. We have to take all of the verses together.

        III.      Putting it all together.
        A.      Going through this exercise demonstrates something to us. First, it demonstrates that we cannot remove any of these requirements and be saved. For instance, without grace, we could have all the others but would never be saved. On the other hand, without baptism, we could have all the others and neither would we be saved. That God, in His Word, links each of these concepts or actions with salvation demonstrates that each of them is required and if even one is missing we don’t have all the pieces.

        B.     Additionally, we cannot take any of these verses to mean that only the one concept or action mentioned in that verse is all that is needed for salvation. For instance, we cannot bank on II Thessalonians 2:10 and say, “I love the truth therefore I must be saved,” if we have not repented of our sins, confessed our faith in Jesus or been baptized for the remission of our sins. Additionally, we cannot turn to I Peter 3:21 and say, “I have been baptized. I must be saved,” if we haven’t repented of our sins or if we do not love the truth. What we actually learn is that these seemingly simple statements are actually more complex than they appear. I Peter 3:21 can say that baptism saves, not because that is the only requirement, but because it is only biblical baptism if all the other requirements are in place. Without faith, it is not biblical baptism. Without repentance, it is not biblical baptism. Without knowledge of or love for the truth, who would be baptized? Therefore, Peter’s statement includes the other requirements. In like manner, Acts 16:30-31 though Paul only mentions belief, his statement includes confession of faith, repentance and baptism as well as everything else, because having faith in Jesus and His Word, means I believe all He said. Therefore, I cannot be said to have faith if I won’t repent or be baptized, because then I obviously did not believe Jesus’ teaching on repentance or baptism. Consider one final example. That Acts 15:11 and Ephesians 2:5-8 say we are saved by grace does not mean we can say, “Oh, God is gracious therefore I must be saved,” if we have not repented and are not enduring in Christ to the end.

        Conclusion:

              The issue, therefore, is where are you on this spectrum? If you don’t have all of it, you don’t really have any of it. If you haven’t been enduring in Christ but rather have turned from Him, then your earlier faith and obedience is not going to save you (Ezekiel 18:24). On the other hand, if you have never come to Christ in faithful obedience to begin with, you are not saved. Do you know and love the truth? Do you hope in Christ? Do you believe in Jesus? Have you repented of your sins? Then why not confess your faith in Jesus and be baptized for the remission of your sins today?

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        • Hi Ken – I recognize this as a boiler plate posting (it can be found here for example – http://www.franklinchurchofchrist.com/sermons/date/2005/htm/20050626AM.htm )

          Scripture also does not tell us the thief WAS baptized either. I assume that you mean the thief on the cross may have been baptized prior to crucifixion. This is similar today to infant baptism… common practice in the RCC. But the biblical model for baptism is after God’s work in regeneration. Belief, then baptism…

          Baptismal Regeneration is refuted by the following verse – Ephesians 2:8-9. We bring nothing to salvation. God’s grace alone. Never works.

          Christ was the perfect sacrifice, once for all sin. Doctrines of Grace. Christ Alone.

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          • Mark you are exactly right. Today’s model as it has always been is belief then baptism. As Ephesians 2:8-9 says by the grace of God we are saved through faith. That is not by grace alone as you stated. It requires that we have faith. Grace is a gift from God. James 2 tells us the importance of works “faith without works is dead”, “by works a man is justified an not by faith only”. (KJV) John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. People will say I believe all of this until it come to baptism, then they will say I don’t think you have to do that, you need to but you don’t have to. I see to many commands in the Bible to be baptized to overlook it. Are you willing to face God not being baptized for the remission of your sins. Some people will say baptism is “just” to be added to the church, you haven’t got to be a member of a church to go to heaven. If the Church is His body and baptism is where you come into His body, which He adds you to you don’t “join”. I don’t see where a person believes and can truly have that hope of an Eternal Home with him without doing this. As John 14 states “if you love ME you will keep MY commandments”.

          • Why are we even discussing the thief on the cross anyway? Read Hebrews 8:6-13. Upon Jesus’ death, burial and resurrection a New Covenant was made. Romans 6:3-6 explains that we were baptized into Jesus’ death, burial and resurrection so that we may walk in newness of life. Jesus had not died, been buried, or resurrected when he saved the thief on the cross. The thief on the cross lived and died under the Old Covenant and the means by which he was saved does not apply to us today. We must follow the teachings of the New Covenant. This includes being baptized for the forgiveness of sins in order to receive the gift of the Holy Spirit so that we may walk in newness of life (again Romans 6:3-6; Acts 2:38). It is very important that we look at the scriptures within their context in order to get a proper understanding of the scriptures. The old law was done away with when the New Covenant was set in place and a new way was established.

          • Rachael you couldn’t have said it any better. I think we sometimes forget about the Old Covenant still in place as Jesus is hanging on the cross. Lets also not forget, Jesus can forgive and save whom ever He chooses, however He chooses and because the thief on the cross was truly sorrowful and repented, Jesus saved him. The New Covenant is a different story as Jesus has given us a pattern to follow and deviating from His plan is only setting us up for permanent separation from God. We either do it His way and only His way or we don’t. We are not God and we have no business deciding what we think would be acceptable for salvation. It was already determined by Christ. Repent, Confess and Baptism for the forgiveness of sins. Anybody that would argue with that, simply doesn’t want to fully obey God.

    • There are many types of baptism in the bible. Most ppl see the word baptism and relate it immediately to water. It is also refered to a spiritual baptism…baptism of one’s spirit which are sins are covered in the blood.

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  7. First of the thief on the cross was BEFORE Jesus died on the cross so therefore he was under Old Covenant and not the new Covenant which was set in place after Jesus’ death, burial, and resurrection. If you have an unclear understanding I suggest you read Hebrews 8:6-13.

    I urge you to study the conversion story of the Apostle Paul. It is told three times in the book of Acts but I suggest looking specifically at Acts 22. Saul had faith, he had confessed Jesus as lord, he had repented of his sins. Not to mention he had been fasting and praying for three days straight. In Acts 22:16 Ananias says to Saul/Paul “Now why do you delay? Get up and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His name.’” So we have seen him believe, confess, repent, and spend three days fasting and praying yet he is still ordered to be baptized in order to have his sins forgiven.

    Also take a look at 1 Peter 3:18-21 “For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit; 19 in which also He went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison, who once were disobedient, when the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah, during the construction of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through the water. Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you—not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ”

    I think it is very clear through scriptures that baptism is, in fact, essential for salvation. As is belief, confession, and repentance.

    Also look at Acts 2:38, Colossians 2:11-12, Mark 16:16, Galatians 3:27

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  8. Until recently, I was a lifelong member of the Church of Christ until my congregation decided that it would be great to initiate a concealed carry class. I felt this was a conflict of interests if not a direct contravention of Christ’s teachings. So, after some unfruitful attempts at dialog and a few nasty barbs thrown my way, I decided to leave the congregation. I have since come to the conclusion that I have zero interest in the American version of mainstream Christianity any longer. I find it somewhat interesting that you decided to take on these guys on the basis of some fine point on soteriology and not their gun fetish.
    Here’s why I’m not crazy about the Duck Dynasty boys and their version of faith: “My idea of happiness is killing things! boom boom boom!”~ Phil Robertson

    That sounds like a serious spiritual sickness to me.

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    • Scott – the reason that I am discussing the differences I have with these men based on the doctrines of grace (soteriology) rather than their gun fetish is because a gun fetish will not damn anyone to hell, but a wrong view of the gospel will certainly do that. We must labor to get the gospel right – and anything added to the work of Jesus on the cross (baptism, church membership, observing the Lord’s Supper etc..) is anti-gospel.

      I hope you see my issue – it’s a gospel issue.

      God bless,

      Pastor Josh Buice

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  9. Mr. Buice Acts 22:16 says arise and be baptized washing away thy sins.

    Look at Mark 11 29-30
    29 And Jesus answered and said unto them, I will also ask of you one question, and answer me, and I will tell you by what authority I do these things.
    30 The baptism of John, was it from heaven, or of men? answer me.

    I will ask ONE question that I would like for you to answer with explanation.

    If baptism washes away sin as stated in Acts 22:16, will there be sin in heaven?

    I seriously doubt you will answer this for me.

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    • Ken,

      It is obvious that we have differing positions on what the meaning of the gospel is.

      I embrace the gospel as the good news that Jesus suffered in my place on the cross and that His work on the cross (and that alone) is sufficient to save me. Therefore, grace alone, by faith alone, in Christ alone is all that is necessary for salvation.

      When we read verses such as the one you cited – they must always be interpreted under the light of “tota-Scriptura” – the totality of Scripture. It is plain and evident that there is but one way a person can be saved – and it’s by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone. Jesus said this in John 14:6. It is further taught in Acts 4:12.

      If there is only one way to be reconciled to God – and that’s what the Bible clearly teaches – you can’t have one way for Moses, another way for the thief on the cross, and another way for you and I. If the thief was never baptized – we must say at that point – God didn’t make any exceptions in the method of salvation….so I must be cautious to embrace that line of thinking.

      No – there will be no sin in heaven – it’s impossible! God refuses to have fellowship with sin. The thief who went to paradise with Jesus on that day – went there unbaptized and without sin.

      For King Jesus and His glory alone!

      Pastor Josh Buice

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      • So it is impossible to go to heaven without being baptized to wash away your sins as stated in Acts 22:16? There is only one alone that you can be saved in and that is Jesus Christ. You state there is but one way and then name three grace, faith and Christ. There is a plan to be saved “through Christ” that has several different parts and it does include those you have named. As I asked in a previous post would the walls of Jericho have fallen if Joshua had marched around 3 times? Would Naaman have been cleansed if he had dipped in the Jordan 2 times? Neither of us knows if the thief on the cross was baptized or not, and that is irrelevant to our salvation since he was living under a different law than you and I. Jesus had not gave his life for us at this point. If acts 22:16 does not mean what it says please feel free to show me how you discredit it and its importance by the teaching of man.

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      • Mr. Buice, one more problem I on’t see the answer to in reading this. As you stated in this article that baptism was a command of the church. But you say the Eunuch was baptized before the church existed? Why was the Eunuch baptized? Wouldn’t the church need to be in existence for it to be a command of the church as you believe?

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      • Mr. Buice, could you also explain what using the “total scripture” in this “faith only” doctrine of man says in explaining James 2:21-26. You do have faith only in this scripture but it is preceded by “not by”.

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        • Ken,

          Reread my positions carefully. I am stating clearly that a person can be saved in Christ alone – plus nothing added. Grace is the total gift from God and we embrace it through faith (a gift from God according to Eph. 2:8-9). Therefore, we must have faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross alone for salvation – not His work on the cross plus my obedience in getting baptized. My desire to be baptized is a result of my salvation. I desire to obey and be identified with Christ, but my salvation is instant – the moment that God awakens me (regenerates my dead soul to life as described in Eph 2:1-10) and causes me to repent and have faith in Christ. At some time soon thereafter – I will desire to be baptized out of obedience and to identify with Jesus publicly in the way He has modeled and commanded.

          I hope this is clear!

          In Christ alone,

          Pastor Josh Buice

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          • Mr Buice, I asked several questions which you have not given an answer to. Shouldn’t you be able to answer a direct question concerning the Bible from the Bible? One more question could you show me the scripture from the Bible that says baptism is not essential to salvation? I can show scripture that says it is. I am not saying you can’t show scripture that says something else saves you because it is more to it than one thing. By your position a person does not have to confess Christ or repent of their sins because it requires a person to do something. If what you are teaching is the gospel of Jesus Christ you can answer my questions not with fancy words but where me my children and anybody that read it would understand. The Bible does not contradict man does. The bible is the perfect will of God. So, if you can’t answer the questions I have previously asked I would ask that you look very closely at what you are teaching your soul and those you are teaching depend on it. We are both not right if I am wrong answer my questions and show me where I am wrong.

          • Mr. Buice, a few more question that I would like for you to answer along with the other ones. Will a person go to heaven without being baptized? Yes or no. If yes, are you not teaching a gospel that deletes what you are teaching? Is it for you to “join” the baptist church? If you can go to heaven without it you have you not just gotten rid of the need for your baptist denomination? After all our goal on this earth is to obtain eternal life with our God right? Does it not require something on mans part to repent and confess?yes or no. Is it not necessary for a person to repent and confess? Yes or no. Mr Buice you seem to base your total hope on Ephesians 2 I would encourage you to look at the “total scripture” and put it all together. Matthew 10:22 says the one who endures to the end will be saved. Can we take that and say that’s all we got to do?

          • Ken,

            To answer your questions clearly:

            1. Is salvation essential for salvation?

            Answer: No. Ephesians 2:8-9 says nothing about baptism. Baptism is always demonstrated as a work of man – in obedience – to identify with the risen Christ. It always happens after salvation (Acts 8 and Acts 9 are great examples of this).

            2. Does a person have to repent and believe the gospel to be saved?

            Answer: Yes. Repentance and faith are required to be saved, however, we must be clear about what repentance and faith are. In Scripture, both repentance (2 Timothy 2:25) and faith (Ephesians 2:8-9) are called “gifts” of God. When a person repents and believes the gospel – it is in response to the work of the Holy Spirit.

            3. Will someone ever go to heaven without being baptized?

            Answer: Yes. The thief on the cross did and I am sure throughout history others have been saved on their death bed (although it’s not the most common thing). If according to your position – baptism is essential for salvation – God saved one way for the thief on the cross that was different than everyone else. That would cause inconsistency with God – and the Scripture is plain about that – He never changes. His plans never alter. His method of salvation is constant.

            Furthermore, in an earlier discussion you stated that we don’t know if the thief was baptized. Yes we do. Roman soldiers never allowed anyone to come off of the cross for anything. That’s why history tells us they fought to their death before being nailed or tied to the cross because they knew once they were placed on the cross – it was the end for them. Rest assured – the thief on the cross next to Jesus died on the cross having never been baptized. Yet – he was with Jesus in paradise that very day.

          • Ken,

            To answer your questions clearly:

            1. Is salvation essential for salvation?

            Answer: No. Ephesians 2:8-9 says nothing about baptism. Baptism is always demonstrated as a work of man – in obedience – to identify with the risen Christ. It always happens after salvation (Acts 8 and Acts 9 are great examples of this).

            2. Does a person have to repent and believe the gospel to be saved?

            Answer: Yes. Repentance and faith are required to be saved, however, we must be clear about what repentance and faith are. In Scripture, both repentance (2 Timothy 2:25) and faith (Ephesians 2:8-9) are called “gifts” of God. When a person repents and believes the gospel – it is in response to the work of the Holy Spirit.

            3. Will someone ever go to heaven without being baptized?

            Answer: Yes. The thief on the cross did and I am sure throughout history others have been saved on their death bed (although it’s not the most common thing). If according to your position – baptism is essential for salvation – God saved one way for the thief on the cross that was different than everyone else. That would cause inconsistency with God – and the Scripture is plain about that – He never changes. His plans never alter. His method of salvation is constant.

            Furthermore, in an earlier discussion you stated that we don’t know if the thief was baptized. Yes we do. Roman soldiers never allowed anyone to come off of the cross for anything. That’s why history tells us they fought to their death before being nailed or tied to the cross because they knew once they were placed on the cross – it was the end for them. Rest assured – the thief on the cross next to Jesus died on the cross having never been baptized. Yet – he was with Jesus in paradise that very day.

          • Mr. Buice, why do you pick and choose which questions you try to attempt to answer? Once again Ephesians 2 is you basis, nothing else matters if not stated in Ephesians 2. You say faith and repentance is required do we not also have to confess? How again are you positively sure the thief on the cross had never been baptized, since I know of know where else we are told anything about his life, that is an assumption you are making and teaching in error. As I have also stated what does the thief have to do with our salvation today since Christ had yet to die for our sins, therefore the thief was still living under the old testament law not the new testament law we live under. Yes acts ch 8&9 are some great examples what did everyone of them do? They were baptized. As you stated that baptism was a command of the church not Christ, why was these baptism taking place? You said that the church wasn’t in existence at this time.
            Now for a few questions:
            1 explain James 2:21-26 using your faith only teaching.

            2 why were these people in Acts being baptized such as th Eunuch if the church was in existence to command it?

            3 explain how your sins are washed away as stated in Acts 22:16

            4 did God not GIVE Naaman healing ? Did Naaman have to do anything?

            5 Did the Lord tell Joshua what to Do at Jericho? Would this have taken place if Joshua didn’t DO what he was told to do?

            6 does Romans 6:3 not say that we are baptized INTO CHRIST?

            7 explain Romans ch 6 with your teaching that baptism is not essential for salvation.

            8 could you explain how you separate Christ from the Church. Is the church not Christ?

            9 could you explain Mark 16:16 , Acts 2:38, Colossians 2:12, Galatians 3:27 using your belief that baptism is not essential to salvation?

            10 could you please answer these questions without saying Ephesians 2 says, so therefore this other stuff doesn’t matter?

          • As concerning as Church of Christ teaching is on how one becomes regenerated, equally concerning is their teaching (and the teaching of other churches in the Campbellite tradition) on the eternal security of the believer.

  10. Sup guys. I understand what all of us Christians r coming from. However, I think when we criticise another Christian show like DD we do more harm than good. Personally I like Duck Dynasty & I’m proud that there is a tv show that talks bout Jesus:) I think we have good intentions & we love Jesus of course but when we go being critical on certain issues like this we r hurting ourselves. I mean would u wanna let ur family watch nasty shows or a show that is Christian? Besides these men r preaching the Gospel to ppl who may never hear it. So the less we criticise, the better we r. God Bless :)

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  11. Hey y’all,
    As I sit and read all these post as a result of the article all I can say is WOW.

    Can you help me with this plank in my eye?

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    • Not quite sure how you meant your comment Mike, so forgive me if this comment does not relate correctly… but we need to be clear that this is not a “plank in the eye” issue.

      This is a false teaching issue. I agree with this article completely.

      I wish it weren’t so, because I like the Robertson guys personalities, conservatism and outspoken faith. And I like their show a lot.

      But they are sadly nothing more than false teachers IF they teach the false doctrine of baptismal regeneration. Hate to see it creep in to the orthodox church via Duck Dynasty, but it seems that it will.

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      • I respectfully disagree. I think they r Christians :)

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      • Jon, would you mind taking these scriptures and teach us where teaching that baptism as being essential to ones salvation is a false teaching.

        Is commanded
        Matthew 28:19
        Mark 16:16
        Acts 10:48

        Is essential
        Mark 16:15-16
        Acts 2:38
        1Peter 3:21

        Puts one into Christ
        1 Corinthians 12:13
        Romans 6:3
        1 Corinthians 12:13
        Galatians 3:27

        Is a burial
        Acts 8:38
        Romans 6:3-9
        Colossians 2:12

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  12. what part of mark 16:16 do you not understand? he who believes AND IS baptized will be saved. Baptism, belief, and repentance are all necessary unto salvation. James 2:19 even the demons believe and shudder…belief alone will not save.

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  13. James 2:19 is referring to having a relationship with Christ. not baptism. God is saying away from me, i never knew you. saying it takes more than just believing there is one god to be saved, you need a relationship. also Baptism is NOT a part of salvation. Baptism is the wedding ring of a marriage, its not the marriage, its a symbol of it. i agree everyone should be baptized, i don’t understand why a true believer wouldn’t want to be baptized asap, but dont sit there and try to tell me that if God draws someone to him, gives him conviction of his sin, shows him his need, so he accepts the lord, gives him his heart, and a few weeks later while driving to be baptized he is killed in a car wreck, he will go to the gates of heaven and God will say well buddy, you accepted me, but geesh you didnt make it to the baptism so yeah, off to hell you go. The baptism in the scriptures that is included with the salvation is the Baptism of the soul, that can only be done by Christ at the time of repentance. so please stop trying to Act like a ceremony will save you. once you accept Christ your soul is baptized, and you are a new creation. the physical baptism is just symbol to the world of what God has done in you. Now, about the Duck Dynasty boys. I think we are all sinners, and i truly don’t believe the Robertson family mean to teach anything false. this is the faith they were taught by the leaders of there church, so that is why they teach it. I have no doubt that there gospel is a saving gospel, even if they dont relize there already saved before they get baptized. its really a small manner. we all are humans and are trying to understand a Huge God. so as long as its not a Daming gospel, i really dont have a problem with it. they are still preaching that people are sinners who need Christ. they dont mean any harm, they are just teaching what the leaders in there life have taught them there whole life. There heart is Good and i think God can look past mans ignorance on small issues like this. anyways thats my two cents, God Bless Duck Dynasty.

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    • also i forgot to mention, this same argument happened back in the biblical times. except it was over circumcision not salvation, but its the exact same concept. people getting confused thinking that a ceremony of some sort will save them. check out romans 2.

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    • in the end, its just a disagreement upon when a person is saved, if person a may think he was saved when he was baptized but really he was saved the day before when he accepted Christ. the important part is, HE IS SAVED, lol when does it matter when the exact time was, alot of people cant say the exact time they were saved.

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    • This is what I truly can’t understand. You state ” I can’t understand why a TRUE BELIEVER would not want to be baptized ASAP (such as the examples we are given in the bible it was done IMMEDIATELY),but then argue about someone having a car wreck a few weeks later before they were baptized. Why wasn’t it done immediately? Why do you agree EVERYONE should be baptized if it has nothing to do with salvation? I am starting to believe that many people are just giving lip service and are not TRUE BELIEVERS. How many examples are we given in the bible of someone waiting a few weeks to be baptized? Take for example the Ethiopian Eunuch. He was a religious man who was reading and not understanding what he was reading. Phillip began with the scripture he was reading and PREACHED JESUS to him. One thing you can gather from this is that baptism was preached in PREACHING JESUS from the question that was ask. Here is water what hinders me from being baptized? Phillip said if thou believest with all thy heart that Jesus Christ is the Son of God thou mayest. He said he did and they went down into the water and he was baptized. How could preaching Jesus to someone then include baptism but today it is not necessary? How many examples are given in the bible TO JUST ASK JESUS INTO YOUR HEART? How many examples are given in the bible of WELL JUST SAY THE SINNERS PRAYER?

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  14. For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water. There is also an antitype which now saves us—baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, angels and authorities and powers having been made subject to Him. (I Peter 3:18-22 NKJV)

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  15. come on first off the last vedio was edited and you are looking at the wrong things my brother y are you tripin on baptizum. when there are so meny that need to be saved. you could have spent the time you could trying to bash these men. on a post to the lost. God bless you man i pray that you would see that i am not trying to steal what God has done in you but rather….Revelation 2:4-7

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  16. Anyone questioning the validity of baptismal regeneration should read through this. If you’re looking for materials that explains the position, this does it quite well. If you’re just curious, it’s a good read. I’ll post a few excerpts.

    http://www.newcreationstudies.org/NewCreation/save.htm#BAPTISM

    Acts 2:38 is a scripture verse that we want to cover in some detail. This is a statement which Peter made in response to several thousand Jews’ question, “What shall we do?” Peter’s answer is: “Repent, and let each of you be immersed in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.” One of the arguments that is used is this: the word translated for can also mean because. A man is thrown in jail for the commission of a crime – he is thrown in jail because he committed it. Parallel reasoning then applies to Acts 2:38; a man is immersed for the remission (forgiveness) of sins – a man is immersed because his sins are remitted (forgiven).

    Unfortunately, that attempt to wiggle away from the force of Acts 2:38 will not succeed. The word translated for is the Greek word eis, which rarely ever means because, and certainly not in this context. Consider Matthew 26:28. In this verse, where Jesus is instituting the Lord’s Supper, He describes His blood as being shed “for the forgiveness of sins.” Nobody who believes that the Bible is the Word of God would claim that Jesus shed His blood “because mankind’s sins were already forgiven.” Jesus’ blood was shed for the purpose of forgiving men’s sins! And that same purpose, in exactly the same language (in Greek as well as in English) is ascribed to immersion!!

    I Peter 3:21 states, that as water served to destroy the old world in Noah’s time (II Peter 3:5,6) by immersion in water, and to save Noah and his family, so immersion now saves us. “And corresponding to that, immersion now saves you – not the removal of the dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience – through the resurrection of Jesus Christ” (I Peter 3:21). “…immersion now saves you . . .” That seems like a pretty plain statement. Those who deny that immersion has anything to do with salvation have real trouble with this verse. Dr. Kenneth Taylor, a Baptist, in his paraphrase of the Bible (the Living Bible), gives us his opinion in this way: “That, by the way, is what baptism pictures for us; in baptism we show that we have been saved. . .” (I Peter 3:21, emphasis added). This is straight Baptist doctrine! Baptists teach that an individual is saved by “accepting Jesus into your heart,” and that immersion is a public witness that “you have already been saved.” The Bible, in contrast, teaches that “Immersion now saves you – not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience – through the resurrection of Christ.”

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  17. Mr. Buice, I would still like for you or someone to answer the questions I have raised in my previous comments. If I am wrong in my beliefs please convince me, don’t just pass off my questions or delete my comments.

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    • Mr. Ken

      I have a question for you,

      If baptism saves why did Jesus get baptised?

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      • James, read Matthew chapter 3 John the baptist asked Jesus why he was wanting to be baptized. Jesus said it was to fulfill all righteousness, after which the heavens opened up and the spirit of God descended upon him and a voice from heaven saying, this is my beloved son, in whom I am well pleased. I see from this it was to fulfill all righteousness and it identifies who he is. One question I would ask is if the sinless son of God didn’t reject baptism what is the basis and why would it be rejected today? Why did Jesus insist on being baptized? Was this showing no one is exempt from God’s will?

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        • ok but you still did not answer my question?

          Why did Jesus get baptized?
          What did He need saving from?

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          • Jesus was baptized to fulfill all righteousness. You are right he didn’t need to be saved from anything, he is the savior. If you are looking for examples of conversion Jesus is not one. Jesus was never lost so he Was never separated from God. Can we say we have never been lost and need or needed saving? It demonstrated his will to fulfill all righteousness. What is righteousness?(Psalms 119:172) ALL the commandments of God are righteousness. So when he was baptized he fulfilled all COMMANDS OF GOD. I would see this as Jesus saying this is what must be done to please God. After Jesus was baptized God said “THIS IS MY BELOVED SON IN WHOM I AM WELL PLEASED”. had this been said before this point? Am I understanding you correctly that man doesn’t have to be baptized because he doesn’t need saving from nothing?

          • No, Jesus didn’t need to repent of his sins, because in all the history of the human race He alone was completely sinless. The reason is because He was God in human flesh, sent from heaven on that first Christmas to save us from our sins.

            Why, then, did Jesus seek out John and be baptized by him in the Jordan river? The reason is because Jesus — who was the sinless Son of God — took upon Himself your sins and my sins, and the sins of the whole human race. Just as He didn’t have to die, so He didn’t have to be baptized — until He became the bearer of all our sins. This He did by coming to earth for us.

            In other words, from the very beginning of His ministry Jesus demonstrated that He was the promised Messiah, and (in the words of John the Baptist) “the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!” (John 1:29). His baptism was a sign of this great truth — and it was confirmed immediately by a voice from heaven declaring, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased” (Matthew 3:17).

            No, Jesus didn’t need to repent — but we do, for we have sinned, and our only hope is Christ and His sacrifice for us.

          • And no you did not understand me correctly
            Man does need to be saved but baptism cant do it. Only the Blood of Jesus can save you.
            John 14:6
            Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

            Romans 10:9-13
            9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. 11 For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

            Romans 3:21-26

            21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— 22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins. 26 It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

          • James, you didn’t answer my question about does man need to be baptized. You asked me why did Jesus get baptized and What did he need saving from? I asked you are you saying that man does not need to be baptized because he doesn’t need saving from anything? I am understanding you to say that man doesn’t need to be baptized. I see that Jesus began his ministry being baptized and some of the last words spoken was the great commission commanding baptism. I would be please if you could share the scripture that refutes the necessity of baptism.

          • I never said that man does not need to be baptized. The Bible says that it can not save you. Baptism wont get you to Heaven. Repenting Believing Jesus is Lord and Savior and following Him are how we are saved

  18. James, I agree with these scriptures you have shared but you seem to contradict what your saying. You state that only the blood of jesus can save you then you share scripture on believing, confessing and grace. I agree with everyone of these but these scriptures refering to baptism says the same thing, that it will save you, but for whatever reason a majority of the world doesn’t believe them.Jesus said that the one who “…believes and is baptized will be saved…”/ (Mark 16:16). Peter commanded men to “…be baptized for the remission of sins…” (Acts 2:38). Ananias entreated Saul to “…be baptized, washing away your sins…” (Acts 22:16). Later, Paul wrote to the Romans that we were “…buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.” (Romans 6:4). Peter stated outright, “…there is an antitype (like figure) which now saves us – baptism…” (1 Peter 3:21).
    How do we come into contact with that cleansing blood, which our Lord shed in his death, in order to have our sins washed away? Romans 6:3 tells us how. “Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?” Since Christ shed His blood in His death, when a person is baptized into our Lord’s death, it is there that he comes into contact with the blood of Christ and his sins are then washed away. Baptism is the only means of reaching His death where His blood was shed, so we can have forgiveness of sins. So, when Ananias told Paul in Acts 22:16, “And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized and wash away your sins,” it was the blood of Christ that was washing away Paul’s sins when he was baptized.

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    • James the way I started my last comment doesn’t sound right. What I mean is the blood of Jesus is the only way we can be saved, that was the sacrifice. The way we obtain that is through believing, confessing, repenting,baptism.

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      • The biggest problem is, the churches in many ways have forgotten to teach baptism. Many people are taught it is their faith in Christ is everything for salvation. They believe and then the message of baptism never comes. I have been so disturbed as I wait month after month to hear the truth preached and it seems to come once a year and then the pastor rounds up everyone that accepted Christ and has a big baptizing potluck. Like I said, sadly the importance is not taught. Christ did it. So teach it. Good for duck dynasty boys. The message is coming though competently.

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  19. James in your last comment you said the Bible says that baptism cannot save you. Would you please share where this is at.

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    • Hello Ken, question, in 1 corinthians verse 17 Paul clearly makes a diffrence between the Gospel (what saves you) and baptisim,,,,,why is that? In fact he clearly down plays baptism if you read that first chapter in context,,,, if Paul was saved by baptism why do you think he seperates it from the Gospel and makes it crystal clear he was not interested in baptising people but preaching the Gospel?

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      • Dan, if you go back and start at the first verse you clearly will see what Paul is talking about. He is speaking to the Corinthians of there being divisions among them. One saying I am of Paul, I am of Apollis, I am of Cephas and I of Christ. In v13 he ask is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or was you baptized in the name of Paul? V14-16Paul say he is thankful that he didn’t baptize more of them than he did lest they should say he did this in his own name. Paul did baptize, he names some here at Corinth that he baptized. Paul is in no way down playing baptism or separating it from the gospel. The point being made here is that you can’t follow man just because he taught you or baptized you. Christ is the only one and the only way that is who you should be of. As for Paul teaching on baptism let’s look at a few.

        I. IN HIS EPISTLE TO THE ROMANS

        A. BAPTISM IS A BURIAL AND RESURRECTION WITH CHRIST…
        1. It is a baptism into the death of Christ – Ro 6:3
        2. It is a burial with Christ into death (His death, we are
        crucified with Him!) – Ro 6:4
        3. It is done in order that we might walk in newness of life
        – Ro 6:4-5
        4. It involves crucifying the old man, that the body of sin may
        be destroyed – Ro 6:6
        5. It thereby frees us from sin as we die to sin, that we might
        live with Christ – Ro 6:7-11

        II. IN HIS EPISTLE TO THE GALATIANS

        A. BAPTISM IS HOW WE PUT ON CHRIST…
        1. From Ga 3:26-27 we learn that baptism is involved in the
        process of becoming sons of God by faith in Christ Jesus
        2. The “for” beginning verse 27 begins an explanation as to HOW
        we become sons of God through faith
        3. Baptism is therefore the means by which we “put on Christ”,
        an become sons of God.

        III. IN HIS EPISTLE TO THE COLOSSIANS

        A. BAPTISM IS A WORK OF GOD…
        1. A “spiritual circumcision” in which sins are “cut away”
        – Col 2:11
        2. A burial with Christ, and also a resurrection with Him
        – Col 2:12
        3. Made effective “through faith in the working of God” – Col 2:12
        4. In which GOD makes us “alive together with Him, having
        forgiven you all trespasses” – Col 2:13

        B. NOTE CAREFULLY…
        1. Here we learn that baptism is a work of God, not man
        a. Just as it was God who raised Jesus, so it is He who makes
        us alive, having forgiven our sins! – Col 2:13
        b. Our part is “faith in the working of God” as we are buried
        with Christ in baptism – Col 2:12
        2. God is the “Great Physician”, who is cutting away our sins
        (through the blood of Christ)
        a. We are simply the patient, who humbly submits in faith to
        the surgeon’s scalpel
        b. He is the One who makes us alive, that we might rise to
        walk in newness of life

        IV. IN HIS EPISTLE TO TITUS

        A. BAPTISM IS A “WASHING” AND “REGENERATION”…
        1. Is Paul talking about baptism in Tit 3:5?
        a. The figure “washing” certainly alludes to the baptismal
        waters
        b. We have already seen where in baptism we are:
        1) Raised to walk in newness of life – Ro 6:4
        2) Made alive by God – Col 2:12-13
        — Does this not suggest a “washing of regeneration…”?
        c. Martin Luther and many others understood this verse to
        refer to baptism
        2. Thus God saves us in baptism:
        a. It is a “washing of regeneration” – a washing in we are
        reborn
        b. It is a “renewing of the Holy Spirit” – a renewal in which
        the Spirit is at work
        — Just as Jesus said: “…unless one is born of water and
        the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.” – Jn 3:5

        B. NOTE CAREFULLY…
        1. This “washing” and “regeneration” does not occur because we
        have earned it!
        a. Baptism is not a work of righteousness by virtue of which
        we merit salvation!
        b. We are saved by the kindness, love, and mercy of God!
        – Tit 3:4-5
        2. It is by God’s mercy that HE (not we) saves us!
        a. Which HE does through the washing of regeneration and
        renewing of the Holy Spirit!
        b. Which HE does when we are baptized into Christ!
        3. Through such mercy in Christ Jesus, we are truly “justified by
        His grace” – Tit 3:6-7

        Looks like Paul had quite an interest in baptism while preaching the Gospel.

        Let us look at one other place, Acts ch 8. We are told of Phillip and the Ethiopian eunuch. The eunuch was reading from Isaiah and not understanding what he was reading. Phillip began where he was reading and preached Jesus to him. I would hope we would agree that this would be the same as sharing the gospel with him. The place where he was reading was speaking of Jesus death, not anything mentioned about baptism in that scripture.We can look at Isaiah from the first chapter to the last and not find anything about baptism but it must have been taught in preaching Jesus because when they came to water the eunuch wanted to be baptized. Could it be that the eunuch was taught the same way Paul taught in Romans 6? Paul taught that when we are baptized we are buried with Christ and raised to walk in newness of life, could this be possible?

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  20. Pastor Bulce, Thank you for seeing the importance in writing this blog. I appreciate the stand you have taken for the sake of the gospel not becoming blurred. You see, I was brought up in the Church of Christ denomination and only through extreme circumstances did I escape their circular reasoning that chains most to that dangerous denomination and learned that trusting in Jesus Christ alone is the only way of salvation. I also spoke out about the gospel of Duck Dynasty and their desire to get into gospel preaching churches. And I’m sure you also received a lot of negativity mostly based on their popularity. As a show, I don’t care if people watch it. I know that I could never watch the show (not only because I am a missionary and live away from the US) just because all of my family is still lost and members of the Church of Christ denomination. Thank you sincerely.

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  21. The issue of Baptismal Regeneration is what we are discussing, primarily, so I will keep my comments narrowed to the topic. The danger of “BR” is that many, though all may not, inadvertently place their trust in their baptism instead of in Christ. This has a placebo affect on the person who may not have been converted and comforts their gnawing conscience – all the way to a dismal eternity. The same issue exists in those who trust in their good works, so other churches are not exempt. Some place their trust in a certain prayer they prayed, but do not trust in Christ alone for salvation… His righteousness credited to them and His payment for sin, bearing God’s wrath on the cross for their “lawbreaking”. Works-salvation & incantational prayer salvation is just as dangerous, but not as obvious as Baptismal Regeneration, which is, in effect, a new twist on the gospel. The COC movement arrived near the early 1900′s from some dissenting baptists. This would make their movement the divisive party, and our reaction a much delayed response.

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